[Maya-Python] HUD Distance from camera.

[Macbeth R.]

Does somebody know how the Distance From Camera info in the Heads Up
Display is being query?

I canÂŽt find the script inside the maya folder, it is a pre script but is
not being show in iniHUDScripts.mel or iniHUD.mel is
named: HUDObjDetDistFromCam

I try different ways of getting the same value, xform, translate, center,
bounding box, none is giving me the same numbers as the HUD gives me,
besides, I had to use different method for different objects (alembics,
plugin caches like yeti fur, arnold standins) but the HUD seems to be
always right doesn't matter which kind of object you select, how is this
being achieved?

I know I can query the HUD result directly from there, but I had to select
every object before doing that, and turn on Object Details in HUD

Can I call the procedure HUD is using, directly from mel or python?

Some examples, :


import maya.cmds as cmds
import maya.OpenMaya as om
import maya.OpenMayaUI as mui

#-------------------------- HUD Distance from Camera (you need to turn on
Object Details)

print(cmds.headsUpDisplay("HUDObjDetDistFromCam", q=1, sr=1))

#------------------------- X FORM
P1 = cmds.xform("camara", q=1, ws=1, t=1)
P2= cmds.xform(cmds.ls(sl=1), q=1, ws=1, t=1)
v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1), om.MVector(*P2)
distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length()
print "Distancia", distanceFromCamera

#------------------------- TRANSLATE
P1 = cmds.getAttr("camara.translate")
P2= cmds.getAttr(cmds.ls(sl=1)[0]+".translate")
v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1[0]), om.MVector(*P2[0])
distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length()
print "Distancia", distanceFromCamera

#------------------------- CENTER
P1 = cmds.getAttr("camara.translate")
P2= cmds.getAttr(cmds.ls(sl=1)[0]+".center")
v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1[0]), om.MVector(*P2[0])
distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length()
print "Distancia", distanceFromCamera

[Anthony Tan]

Bit quiet at work today while I wait for a shot to bubble through, so
thought I'd do a quick writeup

*TL;DR - it's not geometric distance, it's the focal plane distance (as
in, the distance along the camera axis to the focal plane that contains
the point you're looking at) - *if anyone wants I can do up a sketch and
a decenter write up, just yell, this was me poking around in maya more
than the maths


*As a simple proof/demo:*
- create a camera, create a polycube.
- set the transform on the polycube to be -1 on Z. Distance will be 1.
- set the transform on the polycube to be -1 on Z, and 1 on X.
Distance is still 1, even though we have clearly changed the
geometric distance, it's still sliding on the focal plane 1 unit
away from the camera.
- move your camera wherever you want on the X/Y plane. Distance is still
1, because you're moving on the plane.
- Rotate your camera. Distance changes because by rotation, you're
shifting your focal plane around


*And the longwinded answer..* Under the hood in Maya, I suspect the
object's bounding box center is being used (I thought it was the
worldMatrix at first, but you can see this isn't the case trivially by
taking a cube, and moving all the verts. Distance will change, even
though the worldMatrix is static). Disclaimer - I've only done limited
testing so you might find a novel case where this doesn't hold, but the
problem is more for you to figure out what point you want to test.

I am pretty sure this is the case in the HUD however, because it makes
sense AND it explains the funny quirk that a camera is always apparently
0.057 units away from itself - the camera's bbox center happens to be
[0,0.210,-0.057] units in local space offset and since it's in local
space the only distance we care about is the traversal along the cam
normal which is -Z, and 0.057 units. Tada! :D


# here's some sample code to illustrate, more verbose than usual by way
# of documentation - we use PyMEL here at the office by the way, but
# that doesn't change the principles

import pymel.core as pm

# select camera, and apply the worldMatrix to the -Z basis vector to get
# the perturbed camera normal. this will accommodate scale/rotate/skew
# if you really really wanted to do that, and because we're using the WM
# it should manage all manner of grouping etc etc (camera points down
# -ve Z axis unless you've done something *incredibly* funky)

cam = pm.PyNode('camera1') # just selecting the camera I have here
cam_normal = cam.getAttr('worldMatrix').transpose() *
pm.dt.Vector([0,0,-1])
# Transpose to switch between row vs col major w/pymel kindly mangling
# the vector with an implicit zero element in position 4 I believe. You
# probably want to rewrite this for MVectors if you're happier with them

cam_normal.normalize() cam_position =
cam.getAttr('worldMatrix').translate
# do NOT use center, it will be wrong even if you account for the parent

# this is where you'd want to start to loop over your object list
distance_object = pm.PyNode('pCube2') object_vector =
distance_object.getAttr('parentMatrix').translate +
distance_object.getAttr('center') - cam_position

# GOTCHA: the .center attribute folds in the local object space
# transform, but won't give you parent level transforms so you need to
# do that explicitly if you use this approach style.

print object_vector.dot(cam_normal)
# project the object vector onto the camera normal (yay for dot
# products) to find out how may units along it we are. vector and normal
# point away, so +ve numbers are in front, and -ve are behind.


-Anthony

Post by Macbeth R.
Does somebody know how the Distance From Camera info in the Heads Up
Display is being query?
I can´t find the script inside the maya folder, it is a pre script but
HUDObjDetDistFromCam
I try different ways of getting the same value, xform, translate,
center, bounding box, none is giving me the same numbers as the HUD
gives me, besides, I had to use different method for different objects
(alembics, plugin caches like yeti fur, arnold standins) but the HUD
seems to be always right doesn't matter which kind of object you
select, how is this being achieved?
I know I can query the HUD result directly from there, but I had
to select every object before doing that, and turn on Object
Details in HUD
Can I call the procedure HUD is using, directly from mel or python?
import maya.cmds as cmds import maya.OpenMaya as om import
maya.OpenMayaUI as mui
#-------------------------- HUD Distance from Camera (you need to turn
#on Object Details)
print(cmds.headsUpDisplay("HUDObjDetDistFromCam", q=1, sr=1))
#------------------------- X FORM
P1 = cmds.xform("camara", q=1, ws=1, t=1) P2=
cmds.xform(cmds.ls(sl=1), q=1, ws=1, t=1) v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1),
om.MVector(*P2) distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length() print
"Distancia", distanceFromCamera
#------------------------- TRANSLATE
P1 = cmds.getAttr("camara.translate") P2=
cmds.getAttr(cmds.ls(sl=1)[0]+".translate") v1, v2 =
om.MVector(*P1[0]), om.MVector(*P2[0])
distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length() print "Distancia",
distanceFromCamera
#------------------------- CENTER
P1 = cmds.getAttr("camara.translate") P2=
cmds.getAttr(cmds.ls(sl=1)[0]+".center") v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1[0]),
om.MVector(*P2[0]) distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length() print
"Distancia", distanceFromCamera
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[Macbeth R.]

Thanks a lot! Anthony, I will take a look and tell you the results after
weekend.

Greetings!
Thanks again.

Post by Anthony Tan
Bit quiet at work today while I wait for a shot to bubble through, so
thought I'd do a quick writeup
*TL;DR - it's not geometric distance, it's the focal plane distance (as
in, the distance along the camera axis to the focal plane that contains the
point you're looking at) - *if anyone wants I can do up a sketch and a
decenter write up, just yell, this was me poking around in maya more than
the maths
*As a simple proof/demo:*
- create a camera, create a polycube.
- set the transform on the polycube to be -1 on Z. Distance will be 1.
- set the transform on the polycube to be -1 on Z, and 1 on X. Distance is
still 1, even though we have clearly changed the geometric distance, it's
still sliding on the focal plane 1 unit away from the camera.
- move your camera wherever you want on the X/Y plane. Distance is still
1, because you're moving on the plane.
- Rotate your camera. Distance changes because by rotation, you're
shifting your focal plane around
*And the longwinded answer..*
Under the hood in Maya, I suspect the object's bounding box center is
being used (I thought it was the worldMatrix at first, but you can see this
isn't the case trivially by taking a cube, and moving all the verts.
Distance will change, even though the worldMatrix is static). Disclaimer -
I've only done limited testing so you might find a novel case where this
doesn't hold, but the problem is more for you to figure out what point you
want to test.
I am pretty sure this is the case in the HUD however, because it makes
sense AND it explains the funny quirk that a camera is always apparently
0.057 units away from itself - the camera's bbox center happens to be
[0,0.210,-0.057] units in local space offset and since it's in local space
the only distance we care about is the traversal along the cam normal which
is -Z, and 0.057 units. Tada! :D
# here's some sample code to illustrate, more verbose than usual by way of
# documentation - we use PyMEL here at the office by the way, but that
doesn't
# change the principles
import pymel.core as pm
# select camera, and apply the worldMatrix to the -Z basis vector to get
the
# perturbed camera normal. this will accommodate scale/rotate/skew if you
really
# really wanted to do that, and because we're using the WM it should
manage
# all manner of grouping etc etc
# (camera points down -ve Z axis unless you've done something *incredibly*
funky)
cam = pm.PyNode('camera1') # just selecting the camera I have here
cam_normal = cam.getAttr('worldMatrix').transpose() *
pm.dt.Vector([0,0,-1])
# Transpose to switch between row vs col major w/pymel kindly mangling
# the vector with an implicit zero element in position 4 I believe.
# You probably want to rewrite this for MVectors if you're happier with
them
cam_normal.normalize()
cam_position = cam.getAttr('worldMatrix').translate
# do NOT use center, it will be wrong even if you account for the parent
# this is where you'd want to start to loop over your object list
distance_object = pm.PyNode('pCube2')
object_vector = distance_object.getAttr('parentMatrix').translate +
distance_object.getAttr('center') - cam_position
# GOTCHA: the .center attribute folds in the local object space transform,
# but won't give you parent level transforms so you need to do that
explicitly
# if you use this approach style.
print object_vector.dot(cam_normal)
# project the object vector onto the camera normal (yay for dot products)
to
# find out how may units along it we are.
# vector and normal point away, so +ve numbers are in front, and -ve are
behind.
-Anthony
Does somebody know how the Distance From Camera info in the Heads Up
Display is being query?
I canÂŽt find the script inside the maya folder, it is a pre script but is
not being show in iniHUDScripts.mel or iniHUD.mel is
named: HUDObjDetDistFromCam
I try different ways of getting the same value, xform, translate, center,
bounding box, none is giving me the same numbers as the HUD gives me,
besides, I had to use different method for different objects (alembics,
plugin caches like yeti fur, arnold standins) but the HUD seems to be
always right doesn't matter which kind of object you select, how is this
being achieved?
I know I can query the HUD result directly from there, but I had to select
every object before doing that, and turn on Object Details in HUD
Can I call the procedure HUD is using, directly from mel or python?
import maya.cmds as cmds
import maya.OpenMaya as om
import maya.OpenMayaUI as mui
#-------------------------- HUD Distance from Camera (you need to turn on
Object Details)
print(cmds.headsUpDisplay("HUDObjDetDistFromCam", q=1, sr=1))
#------------------------- X FORM
P1 = cmds.xform("camara", q=1, ws=1, t=1)
P2= cmds.xform(cmds.ls(sl=1), q=1, ws=1, t=1)
v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1), om.MVector(*P2)
distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length()
print "Distancia", distanceFromCamera
#------------------------- TRANSLATE
P1 = cmds.getAttr("camara.translate")
P2= cmds.getAttr(cmds.ls(sl=1)[0]+".translate")
v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1[0]), om.MVector(*P2[0])
distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length()
print "Distancia", distanceFromCamera
#------------------------- CENTER
P1 = cmds.getAttr("camara.translate")
P2= cmds.getAttr(cmds.ls(sl=1)[0]+".center")
v1, v2 = om.MVector(*P1[0]), om.MVector(*P2[0])
distanceFromCamera=om.MVector(v2-v1).length()
print "Distancia", distanceFromCamera
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